(55 years since his debut)
(First time appearing on Radio Star in 12 years)
(The king of trot, our forever sweetheart)
(The legend has come to Radio Star.)
(He shows his cute and bold charms.)
(The master of trot, Nam Jin)
(She has the excitement that can't be controlled.)
(A never-seen-before unique character)
(The singer of "Multifarious", Yoon Soo Hyun)
(The CEO of the hottest hip-hop label)
(A man who shows unexpected cuteness, Swings)
(We thought he was...)
(a genius producer.)
(A man who shows a lot of slapstick comedy, CODE KUNST)
(A cute little pocket boy, Shorry)
(A combination of trot and hip-hop)
(And a legendary performance)
("Show Me the Trot" begins now.)
(The 622nd episode)
I'm in the age to like trot songs,
but my fit suits hip-hop better.
I'm capable of pulling off...
the "Dean-Kid Milli" style.
It's been so long since I last heard the term.
What's trending these days is hip-hop,
but I actually sang trot songs before.
What are you?
You are always a step behind
It's a song called "Love That's One Step Behind".
Please make the song climb up the music chart again.
You're promoting this also?
I sang this song on "Tae Hee, Hye Kyo, Ji Hyun".
- Back then? - Yes.
If you look up my name, there won't be any results.
The singer's name is supposed to be Poong Woon Ah.
- You were Poong Woon Ah? - Yes.
I sang the song as Poong Woon Ah.
- You were Poong Woon Ah. - The lyricist is Horizon,
and the songwriter is Sea Line.
- That's how... - I don't want to know.
If you search my name, it won't show.
- They're nice nicknames. - Horizon and Sea Line.
The drama and song didn't do so well.
- Do we have to know more? - The singer is Poong Woon Ah.
"Love That's One Step Behind" by Poong Woon Ah.
Seriously.
I wear like trot singers,
but I'm a father of a singer who does hip-hop.
I'm the father of GREE the rapper,
and I make comments that are as fierce as hip-hop song lyrics.
GREE, do you agree?
I have an image of a trot singer on variety shows,
but I've been a rapper for 12 years.
It's been 12 years already.
I'll dominate Radio Star...
with my quick-firing attacks.
Right. The pocket boy is here.
That's right.
With an old man's sensitivity of trot songs...
and harsh criticisms of hip-hop coexist on this show.
We're a high-end music program that has no spine.
- Radio Star. - Radio Star.
The pocket boy is here.
- Hi, Shorry. - I strongly recommended you.
Are you taking out another one?
Oh, there are hearts all over his shirt.
I'm a pocket boy.
How does it feel to be here as a special host?
I'm really honored to be here.
I'll give my best today.
- By the way... - Today's the last day...
- to have a special host, isn't it? - Yes.
- Our energy will be taken away. - The regular host...
- will join us next week. - Really?
Our energy will be taken away.
That's how it turned out to be.
- It's already decided? - Yes, it is.
So don't be clingy and just host the show well today.
No, no it's okay.
- He's going to be gone soon. - I'm out in this autumn.
- He's quitting the show himself. - I should aim for that place?
He resigned.
So you never know what'd happen.
- Isn't that good enough? - I'm jealous of Young Mi.
Anyway, did you hear about this?
- On December 8, - That's truly amazing.
the world-renowned band U2,
is visiting Korea for the first time...
- they formed a band. - That's right.
- It's a really big deal. - It's the best!
They're the legends of the 20th century.
Let me explain this in numbers.
They managed to sell more than a hundred million albums.
(He reads out the legendary record while stuttering.)
They won the Grammy Award for 25 years.
And they also placed first on the Billboard Chart.
There was a song called "Joshua Tree" also.
People know him as the character from "Bonobono",
but Bono is way more famous than "Bonobono".
- The lead vocalist of U2. - You won't be able to make it...
on December 8 since you'll be in another country.
- Me? - Yes.
I don't think you can go because you have work.
I can see their performances in another country.
I can watch them at Wembley Stadium.
No, no, they won't perform there.
I don't think they'll come back.
That's too bad.
Among today's guests,
there's a man who performed for the longest time than U2.
We invited the ones who have won the hearts of their fans,
regardless of their genders of age, through their songs
It's "Show Me the Trot" special.
It's "Show Me the Trot" special?
He made his fans' heart flutter with his voice alone.
He's like BTS to those middle-aged people.
He's the Elvis Presley...
of Korea whose debut was 55 years ago.
It's Nam Jin.
(Korea's Elvis Presley, Nam Jin)
If "Crazy World" ruled the 20th century,
then "Multifarious" rules the 21st century.
She's the Shin Shin Ae of the 21st century.
(The world is multifarious.)
She released a duet song with Nam Jin and Park Hyun Bin,
but not many people know her.
She's here to make people recognize her more.
It's a trot singer, Yoon Soo Hyun.
- All right. - It's Yoon Soo Hyun.
The singer of "Multifarious".
He's known as the rap monster.
But now he's the CEO of a popular hip-hop label.
He's a businessman.
He's also very popular.
But he's getting a lot of criticisms as well.
The people online criticize him the most.
It's Swings the rapper.
- It's nice to see you. - Swings.
I'm a huge fan of him.
He showed his funny side on "Show Me the Money".
On "High School Rapper", he produced a number one candidate.
He joined AOMG after being cast by Jay Park.
He's been dominating the music chart with "Good Day".
I'm jealous.
He's the hottest producer these days. He's...
- Cose... CODE KUNST. - It's CODE.
- His name is really difficult. - CODE KUNST.
- IT's CODE KUNST. - CODE KUNST.
- We can also call him Cokun. - Aren't you a rapper?
- Aren't you a rapper? - I am.
CODE KUNST.
Hello.
- Hello. - "Multifarious".
- Over here. - It's nice to see you.
Hello.
- It's nice to see you. - It's nice to see you.
He's the legend of Mokpo.
(The legend makes everyone stand up.)
He's from Mokpo.
- It's nice to see the four of you. - It's nice to see you.
Nam Jin, you thought Radio Star...
is a radio show?
Yes, it's been over 10 years since I last was on an MBC show.
- I see. - That's why...
Then which show was the last one?
It was a show for singers only.
It was a competition show called "I Am a Trot Singer".
I placed first on that show...
and received 10 boxes of galbi...
during the Chuseok holiday season.
I remember how much I enjoyed it.
Jin, it's your 55th year since your debut.
So the junior singers are preparing an album dedicated for you.
Yes, they are remaking the songs that I sang...
into their own styles.
Then they become completely new songs.
Who are the junior singers you can remember now?
There's...
Seol Woon Do, Jang Yun Jung,
and ALi.
- ALi is joining also? - Yes.
- Regardless of genre... - Young people these days...
sing my song this way.
That's how music transforms.
But Woon Do is over 60 this year.
- He's that old? - He's still active.
He was born in 1958.
He's quite old.
He was born in 1958.
Soo Hyun, after you were invited to the show,
you've been only thinking about Radio Star.
Thank you.
I spent all my school years...
completely with Radio Star.
My elementary, middle, high school, and college years.
I'm even spending my time now with Radio Star.
- What's going on? - How old are you?
Our show's been airing for 10 years, so what do you mean by that?
- School years add up to 18 years. - That's how I felt.
It's a show I've been watching a lot and been with.
- It's such an honor... - Thank you.
to be on this show.
But Jong Shin is leaving us soon.
- I knew. - He is like "Multifarious".
(Clapping)
- It's multifarious. - I know.
(She's grateful for everything.)
In the preliminary interview, you made a fuss,
saying MBC is like your mother?
I entered the MBC University Trot Song Festival...
in 2007.
It was a very big show.
It was as big as the University Song Festival.
Sim Soo Bong, Jeon Yeong Rok, and Kim Hyun Chul...
were the judges.
- In that festival, - Did you win?
I won the Grand Prize.
I was like, "Gosh."
So she won from that festival.
I thought I had a talent...
- in trot songs. - Your mouth is really big.
That's when I started my career as a trot singer.
That's why I call MBC a mother because it gave birth to my career.
I cried when it gave birth.
You're saying MBC helped you start your career, right?
(Soo Hyun back in her college days)
(Full of mellow voice)
Then in 2018,
in the year-end MBC Entertainment Award, my song, "Multifarious",
- was mentioned a lot. - It did.
I was so grateful that it kept being mentioned.
(Soo Hyun's most famous song, "Multifarious")
(The lyrics talk about all sorts of people and their careers)
(The Jun Hyun Moo version in the 2018 MBC Entertainment Award)
(People have different favorite shows, It doesn't matter who wins)
When I heard the lyrics of "Multifarious",
I thought they were really weird.
- I was wondering what it was. - It'd take guys like us...
around three years to memorize all the lyrics.
So I kept wondering why the lyrics are like that.
- But I kept going back for it. - I know.
- It sends a message. - It's an amazing song.
- I know. - The time I'm spending here...
feels like a survival show.
Soo Hyun, I think you need to calm down a little.
- You seem so tense. - Excuse me.
Your voice tone is as if you are in a speech contest.
You have to understand her.
She's a rookie singer, you see.
- It's my first time on a show. - She must have looked forward...
to be with such cool guys like yourselves.
- I'm so overwhelmed. - Imagine her excitement.
Even when Jin is talking,
she's only looking at the camera.
It's like a survival show.
- I'm going to give this it my all. - Okay, okay.
We're in this together.
Let's clap for her.
(They clap as if they're possessed.)
- You can do it! - She's seriously...
Soo Hyun...
seems full of passion.
She must've been dying to come to our show.
- That's how big our show is. - Of course.
You look like Park Ji Yoon.
(Dear you)
(She sings the song right away even if she doesn't know the lyrics.)
That's right.
(I won't let this chance go down the drain.)
Swings.
You used to be in Brand New Music, right?
- That's right. - You were in there...
Aren't you being too much like a businessman today?
Why do you make yourself sound so serious?
- "That's right." - I thought it was someone else.
You were in Brand New Music,
but you set up a company yourself.
- It's Just Music, right? - Just Music.
- That's right. - How many businesses do you have?
- I'm running two gyms. - Really?
I have a pizza restaurant and three agencies.
Three agencies?
You changed your number, right?
Yes, that's right.
I sent a text to your old number.
The recipient didn't know me, so I knew you changed your number.
That's his way of sending a message.
- I got that, Swings. - He's telling you to know yourself.
It's okay. He's leaving soon.
It's okay.
I hear there was an accident...
in the pizza restaurant you run.
- Yes, that happens often. - What happened?
Since it's a pizza restaurant run by me,
- people sometimes pick a fight. - Really?
What kinds of fights?
Once, a man...
destroyed my sign for no reason.
Then he came inside the restaurant...
and behaved rudely.
But I dealt with him well.
That's...
So do people ask you to step forward...
after causing a scene?
- Is that how people behave? - Yes.
Asking you to step forward?
They ask my employee if they get orders from me directly.
By the way, Swings feels a little different than before.
(Like this)
- You've become an old man. - Because I'm doing business...
- You look like a promoter. - I think it's this.
They say office changes manners.
I think I've really changed.
(Flustered)
- Why do you sound so serious? - Since I have...
40 to 50 people who get salary from me,
I've become more serious.
I think I've really changed.
He's saying he's no longer on the same level as you.
He's telling you to be more polite.
No wonder he didn't tell me his number.
(Swings, you've already planned everything.)
He might act like he doesn't know us when we meet in another country.
You don't sue those who use your photo without permission...
or make fun of you online?
Yes, I truly believe that we have to preserve freedom of speech.
How do they make fun of you online?
It's like this.
There's this game called giving the most useless gift to someone.
Say for instance that it's Shorry's birthday.
I'd give him a gift, and he'd open it.
Then there'd be a photo of me smiling in the frame.
They'd be like, "How could you give me something like this?"
That's what's trending on SNS.
- It sounds fun. - It is fun.
But at first, it was so new.
So I felt really offended.
I tried my best to live a good life,
but they made fun of me.
- He's never had a real mockery. - I'm enjoying it now.
- He has never... - Try to listen to his stories.
- He's never been mocked for real. - He has so many stories to tell.
I see.
He's never been mocked for real in his face.
I see.
He spent two years of his life just to apologize to the victims.
(He's the number one celebrity when it comes to being mocked.)
Swings, I hear people are making fun of you...
for exercising.
It seems like your belly got bigger.
I still have a big belly.
There's this exercise called power lift.
It's just lifting as much weight as possible.
That's actually a type of sports.
Is it something like...
- lifting big tires? - A strong man.
Yes, that's right.
It may look just rough,
but it requires a lot of techniques.
So this must be it.
I lifted all those.
How many kilograms is that?
- It's 725kg. - A man...
- is sitting on top of it. - Yes.
The reason this became viral...
is that people referred to it as just making a lame attempt.
So they're saying you're only putting little effort.
They are telling you to push more.
- They said I should push more. - That's right.
Because you were only slightly pushing it?
- Last year... - It's like picking nose like this.
I wanted to show off, so I uploaded the clip on my SNS.
I didn't think of pushing it further.
I just increased more weight on it.
- I added more weight, and... - When you were doing that,
did you think you were making a lame attempt yourself?
- But he was into it, so... - A lame attempt...
They are partially right.
But that's truly amazing.
- That's no joke, seriously. - It's not easy at all.
It won't even budge for most people.
So I thought I should add more weight on it to do it properly.
I thought I should add more weight and do it well...
than just lamely give an attempt.
So I'm learning it again from the beginning.
That's amazing.
CODE KUNST, I hear you are the hottest producer these days.
I hear your income increased by 10,000 times from last year.
- 10,000 times? - 10,000 times?
Yes, that's compared to when I first started making music.
That means if he earned 10 dollars, he now earns 100,000 dollars.
But my first income was nine dollars.
- That was how much I earned. - I can calculate.
- That means he earned 90,000. - That's 90,000 dollars.
Do you earn 90,000 dollars per month?
Yes, when things go well.
- Really? - Of course, he's a hot producer.
You're in the top one percent among hip-hop producers for income?
- That's last year. - Last year?
Because you produced a lot of songs.
That's how much hip-hop producers earn?
- Yes, they earn a lot. - Yes.
Then I should change my genre to hip-hop.
(Then I should change my genre to hip-hop.)
(The strongest rival, MC Jin is here for the challenge.)
What does your name mean, CODE KUNST?
- Yes, I wanted to know that. - KUNST means...
- What's his name again? - It means...
- CODE KUNST. - So what it means is that.
I was full of pretentiousness...
when I first started my career.
I thought a lot about how to name myself.
I saw the word "kunst"...
in one of the books that my mother read.
I looked up the meaning because I got curious.
- It means "art" in German. - That's what "kunst" means?
So I thought of using that word...
and combining it with "code", making my name CODE KUNST.
I thought, "The songs I make will become art."
I put a grand meaning to my name.
So I came up with words that have the grandest meanings.
But it's not easy to pronounce it.
Right, that's why people call me Cokun instead.
CODE KUNST.
Did you know who CODE KUNST is before coming here?
It's our first time seeing him as well.
- You didn't know also. - It's our first time too.
Of course I know CODE KUNST.
- You do? - Of course.
- How? - You were also on...
- "High School Rapper ". - You're right.
- Really? - And he looks like...
my second older brother.
- Your older brother? - Yes.
He does look like your brother.
I admit it that you knew him.
(The men with similar DNAs met each other coincidentally.)
Jin, you released a duet song with Soo Hyun. Is that true?
- Yes, not so long ago. - Right.
I hear you came up with the choreography.
I made something fun based on the dances I did before.
I made it fun.
When he's on stage,
- he has this sense of rhythm. - Right.
"Sachigi Sachigi" is the song title.
- "Sachigi Sachigi"? - That's our song.
And he dances to the lyrics like this.
- Really? - It goes like this.
- I see. - Like this.
Can we listen to it?
"Sachigi Sachigi"?
- It says here that you'll perform. - You'll sing it later.
("Sachigi Sachigi" coming soon)
You are watching a high-end music program,
Radio Star where four guests who are mellow trot singers...
and hip-hop singers that make you move to the rhythm.
Let's begin "Show Me the Trot" now.
Jin, you are the first singer...
to sing and dance at the same time on stage.
Yes, singing is all about rhythms.
Just like how rap has rhythms. Back then,
the twist was in trend all around the world.
(Humming softly)
The twist goes like this.
(Dancing right away)
Just like this.
- That's was the twist. - I saw him move his legs.
- Don't you remember it? - Yes.
- The twist. - I did the dance on school picnics,
- so I had a cramp in my back. - I see.
When the twist dance was popular,
I sang the song, "Have a Kind Heart" while dancing the twist.
- That's how it happened. - When I sang "Have a Kind Heart",
I shook my legs a lot.
(Back then, his fancy performance was a big sensation.)
That's how I became a singer who danced...
- back in the days. - I see.
You used to be the dancing machine back in the days.
- Anyway, no one danced as I did. - I see.
My mouth is dancing like crazy too.
(Chiming in)
You're you because you only talk.
(They both focus on their job.)
Nam Jin, when others call you the Emperor of Trot,
you get angry.
My family isn't a royalty.
(It's simple and clear.)
- I was never an emperor. - I see.
- I can't lie to my fans. - Right.
- You don't like flattery like this. - Right.
How should I put it? I'm proud of my job...
because teenage girls from my era...
were the first to be huge fans of mine.
- It happened for the first time. - That's true.
- I'm the first singer of teenagers. - I see.
- I'm pretty old now. - Right.
I still have my fans.
- They are still with me. - You don't like that nickname.
- What about this nickname? - Stop it.
- You know what? - A rich singer from Mokpo.
I tell the host to come.
- Don't you like that nickname? - I scold the host.
"Have you ever seen me become the Emperor?"
"Stop talking nonsense."
"Just tell them I'm teenagers' favorite singer."
- You like to be called that. - Of course.
You're not the Emperor of Trot. Teenagers' first favorite singer.
- Of course. - But when I see him in private...
That one strikes a chord with me.
- Fans would give you a big cheer. - Right.
The fans would throw stuff at me.
- They used to do that back then. - I didn't see what it was.
- Some would throw underwear. - Really?
- Of course. - That was an issue of our society.
Right. I was slapped once too.
- Why? - Why?
- My fans were so happy. - Because they were happy?
I extended my hand to shake their hands.
When I extended my hand...
(The slap came out of nowhere.)
Because they were so happy?
She should've hit my cheek, but she hit my eye.
I almost passed out.
- Did she have a grudge against you? - No, no.
Was it some kind of a grudge?
- She was happy to see me. - I see.
- Because she was happy? - "Why is he treating me like that?"
- It wasn't like that? - No, no.
When you're so happy, you hit someone's back.
She was extending her hand because she was happy, but she slapped me.
- Her aim was off. - It should've been my cheek,
but she hit my eye.
- I see. - I was so shocked.
We'd need all day if we're going to talk about how popular he was.
- He's full of stories. - He's been around for a long time.
Jin, you've been singing trot songs for over half a century now.
It's been 55 years now.
And you said that only one thing matters in trot songs.
It's the same with all music like hip hop.
- Your emotion matters the most. - That's right.
- You must deliver it to listeners. - Right.
It's a matter of whether you can deliver emotions or not.
Mr. Nam. Yesterday, I watched the video...
- for "Heartache" five times. - That's a great song.
You sang that song in 1986.
I had to hold back my tears when I was watching it.
The lyrics weren't that important...
because the lyrics became the background,
and I could feel his emotion.
This is how I felt.
I was watching his heartbreak because his loved one left.
- Heartache - Right.
Actually, that never happened to me.
- Right. - It never happened to me in life,
- but it's just like acting. - Yes.
It's the same with singing.
A movie lasts an hour and a half.
And as for songs, I had three minutes.
- A song is like a movie. - Right.
- I must deliver those emotions. - Singers are actors too.
(His eyes and voice deliver the heartaches of a breakup.)
(The legendary performance 30 years ago made Swings cry.)
(He's amazing.)
- I must deliver those emotions. - Singers are actors too.
When Mr. Nam was younger,
he looked like one of those scary manly guys.
He looked like he could fight.
- I was pretty good at that. - I knew it.
- He's a great fighter. - You're reminded of that, Swings.
He was singing a sad song,
but he was brimming with confidence.
His face said that he was challenging the people,
but he looked sad at the same time.
It's one of those strange feelings.
- He was full of confidence. - You must listen to "Empty Glass".
- "Empty Glass". - That's a masterpiece.
(It became people's favorite song. It was released in 1982.)
(Fierce eyes)
- I sing "You Won't Know"... - A masterpiece of Korean songs.
when I go to karaoke.
(It's Gook Jin's favorite song.)
Which song?
(Humming)
(They show perfect teamwork.)
(It was the song from his 60th album which was released in 2002.)
(Jin...)
But the younger generation likes "A Nest".
- "A Nest". - Exactly.
- That's popular among youngsters. - Yes.
(Dancing)
(Is it the reality or a dream? Is it really happening or not?)
- Whose impression is that? - Don't stand there, confused
(Finishing touch)
I knew he'd be great. I knew it.
- Isn't that song great? - If only you came before Young Mi.
What a shame.
Hey, Young Mi!
(That's my spot.)
- I have a question. - Okay.
- You have a lot of hair. - Yes.
Usually, people without hair shave their head.
Why did you shave your head then?
- After living with this hairstyle, - That's your style?
this just became my style.
- I see. - But you know what?
It suits you.
- Yes, it suits him nicely. - I see.
Thank you.
You look like a young monk.
(You look like a young monk.)
Right. Are you a Buddhist now?
- No, I'm not. - Okay.
It hurts.
I haven't seen that for a while.
(It's a funny act from the 80s.)
Soo Hyun, when you share the waiting room with Jin nowadays,
you said that the room is full of delicacies.
- During his concerts, - I get all sorts of kimchi.
- Leaf mustard kimchi. - his fans give me some food too.
- That's amazing. - They come to set up the meal.
There was a long table.
And the table was full of side dishes.
- What kind of food was there? - Was there fermented skate?
Fermented skate with pork and kimchi, abalones, bellflowers,
- and wild ginseng. - And cockles?
Yes, we had cockles too. There was a lot of great food.
He usually gets food from the South.
- I'm serious. - Don't forget green onion kimchi.
- Right. That's delicious too. - Green onion kimchi.
And one of the fans brought this from Beijing.
- The duck skin. - The duck skin.
- He gets all sorts of food. - It melted in my mouth.
- That's all in the waiting room? - Yes.
They didn't send you food today?
- Not today. - No.
- They should've sent food today. - Not today.
- I mean... - We always eat just snacks.
- Today... - We already get enough gifts.
How could you get greedy over Jin's food from the fans?
Well, Soo Hyun...
- You can't read the page either. - No.
I mean...
I was keeping up with it.
- You can't look at mine. - I can't?
- Yours and mine are different. - This one?
I have the full script.
- Come on. - Gosh.
Must I take care of you like this?
(You're 38 years old.)
- Goodness. - Hey, blow your nose.
Unbelievable.
- Goodness. - Let me see.
- A dad helping with his homework. - Exactly.
"Dad, where is this?"
Soo Hyun, you have a mega-hit song, "Multifarious".
The elementary school students helped your song...
- climb up the charts again? - Really?
I guess that my song strikes a chord with babies...
and elementary school kids.
- They sing my song. - "Multifarious"?
- It moved them to tears? - They did a cover of my song.
- Young kids did a cover of my song. - It's a fun song for them.
There are a lot of cover videos online.
A 15-year-old female middle schooler sang my song.
- She became popular among kids. - I see.
(Unlike a 15-year-old, she has a mature voice.)
(She became the popular kid with a Chinese version of the song.)
I daresay that it's as popular as the shark song.
- A list of careers comes up in it. - Right.
When she was singing my song, she had a chance...
to think about what she would like to do once she grows up.
- I see. - And...
- she could remind herself again. - She markets her song well.
- And... - She's good at interpreting this.
You know what? Soo Hyun is...
more calculated than I thought.
- She's accomplishing her goals. - She gets everything.
(She's promoting herself in a strategic manner.)
Actually, the kids have to sing for trot songs to become popular.
A kindergarten kid sang my song, and it became somewhat popular.
- Which song, "Energy"? - "Energy"?
- "Tok Tok". - If kids like it, it gets popular.
They got popular when kindergarten kids started to sing them.
How does the song go? I've never heard of it. Sing it.
- You're my energy - Energy
- This is it. - Energy?
(He doesn't know the song.)
- That's it. - I mean,
- a lot of kids sang "Like It". - Really?
A lot of kids sang that song.
The kids have to sing them.
- Right. - That helped my song.
Soo Hyun, thanks to "Multifarious",
I filmed school uniform and ginseng wine commercials.
- School uniform? - Yes.
- Only idol singers get such offers. - Right.
I had a photoshoot for school uniforms.
And I had an offer for ginseng wine too.
I accepted the offer and filmed the commercial for it.
How are soju and ginseng wine commercials different?
This is the facial expression for soju commercials.
- What about the ginseng wine? - This is it.
As for ginseng wine commercials, my smile has to look very classy.
- And... - You know what?
- ginseng... - She's never hesitant.
I must match my pose for ginseng.
- She got up. - She got up from her seat.
- Go on. - There's a bottle of ginseng wine.
I have to strike a pose like the ginseng.
(Ginseng the Human)
I crossed my legs.
Did you wear that dress to match the color of ginseng?
Right. I always wore a yellow dress.
If you look at the commercial,
I have a classy smile on.
- She's saying that she's classy. - No, no.
She's a fun guest.
She's fun indeed.
By the way, she gets into her roles intensely.
- She's very focused. - She's amazing.
I am indeed one of a kind.
Indigo Music is the CEO of a music label, Indigo Music.
- You have another label? - Yes.
- Just Music. Indigo Music. - What else?
I have another one called Wedaplugg.
Wedaplugg? You have a lot.
- You got three more new labels? - Yes.
Don't you think you're expanding too much?
I think so.
You won the Label of the Year from Korean Hip-hop Awards.
- Yes, I did. I'm grateful. - You won the award.
In your own opinion, which place do you think...
your label should be ranked?
- It should be ranked first. - Really?
Yes. My artists are too good.
- I see. - They're great.
Name a famous artist we know.
- I'll name three artists. - They're from Indigo Music.
- Indigo Music has Kid Milli, - Kid Milli.
- Young B, - Young B.
and Jvcki Wai, a female artist.
- Jvcki Wai. - She's...
somewhat similar to you. You guys are different,
- To me? - but she expresses her energy...
- to other people. - Really?
- Me? Jvcki? - She expresses her energy.
- Jvcki Wai. - Jvcki Wai?
I think you two will make a great pair.
- I'll wait for your call. - That crossed my mind.
(He's surprised at her blunt remark.)
CODE KUNST, you've worked with famous foreign artists.
Recently, I worked with JMSN.
It's pronounced Jameson.
He's a singer, but he's also a producer...
- who helped Kendrick Lamar... - Kendrick Lamar.
and J. Cole with their albums.
- I have a question. - I loved working with him.
Do you work with him over emails? How did you set this up?
For example, with JMSN,
I sent him about 20 emails every day...
- for 1 month. - 20 emails a day for 1 month.
- But... - You sent him the same email?
Yes, it's the same email.
I just changed...
- the last line. - I bet he was sick of you.
I'm quite clingy.
He never read the emails I sent him.
- So I became clever. - The title should've been,
"Do you want a hot date tonight?"
"What is this?"
"I can't believe I got 20 emails of this."
- Who knows? - That might go to his spam folder.
So I sent the email to his friends.
- To his friends? - To his photographer.
- And that worked out. - People don't even do that...
- when they date. - That is a good strategy.
CODE KUNST,
you produced a rapper that won "High School Rapper 3"...
and rappers who were in 2nd and 3rd place on "Show Me the Money 7".
You were shocked during "High School Rapper 3"?
When I was on the show,
I realized this at one point. When the TV program...
did well because the rappers on the show went viral online,
this show...
became those academies that...
repeated test-takers attend before taking the test again.
I went outside during my break to get some fresh air.
I guess someone's mom somehow came into the building.
She told me that her son was going to be on this show next week.
She said she'd call me...
and asked me to teach her son.
She asked me to give him tips on how to do well on the show.
When she said that, I was so shocked.
- This became... - His mom...
- saw only one side of things. - That's right.
To get selected for the show,
the judges have to see how cool he is, how charismatic he is,
and how much of attention he'd get from people.
The judges have to evaluate considering all these factors.
She thought that working with the producer...
- and flattering him... - Exactly.
would get her son a spot on the show.
That day, when I was filming,
I was out of it.
You know, people around my age call that...
buttering someone up.
"She's buttering him up."
You know that, don't you? Don't you know what it means?
- I've never heard of it. - Butter someone up.
- What does that mean? - It came out in our era.
- We call that buttering someone up. - Is that Korean?
"Mr. Yoon, please help out my kid."
- You try to win them over. - You win them over.
It's like asking them to help your child.
"What do you like? Do you like pork belly?"
(He's buttering Mr. Yoon up.)
- This is called buttering him up. - I see.
That wasn't a Chinese expression?
No, it wasn't.
- You sing trot songs in China too? - Yes.
I bet Chinese people like Korean trot songs.
Right. Their Beijing operas have a similar feel to trot songs.
And there's square dancing in China.
During their lunch breaks,
everyone dances together in squares.
And the songs they play during square dancing...
- sound similar to trot songs. - Right.
I released my first full-length album.
- In Chain? - Before "Multifarious" got famous?
(She fascinates them.)
(The melody goes well with Chinese lyrics.)
The lyrics go well with the song.
(Ms. Train of Excitement goes wild.)
(What am I watching right now?)
Do the lyrics mean the same in Korean?
She's not shy to sing in a foreign language either.
(The train is still running.)
Like this. I rap throughout four verses of my song.
I was the first trot singer...
to release such an album.
I was the first to release a full-length album.
- It had nine songs in it. Right. - The lyrics were in Chinese?
I have a song called "Flower Road".
Can't you stop?
- That song is... - Come on, that's enough.
- Goodness. - Chinese people...
sing my song.
- But... - I end up listening to her.
(She's the super popular singer among trot singers.)
Soo Hyun...
- Wait, this is a stage name? - It's a stage name?
Not that many people would choose that as their stage name.
- But doesn't it suit me? - Yes.
- Right. - I'm sure everything suits you.
- What's your real name? - What's your real name?
My real name is...
Yoon Ji Yeon.
- That's a nice name too. - Ji Yeon.
When I was making my debut,
the SBS drama, "My Love from the Star"...
was really popular in Korea.
I decided to use "Soo Hyun" from the actor, Kim Soo Hyun.
That's how my stage name became Yoon Soo Hyun.
- Women usually choose female names. - Right.
- Right. - But she chose a man's name.
- I'm aiming for the Chinese market. - Your label chose that?
But before the drama came out,
"My Lovely Sam Soon" was popular.
And Hyun Bin starred in the drama.
That's how my label picked the name for Park Hyun Bin.
- That's how he got his name. - Yes.
- I see. - So...
- He was the most popular actor. - I see.
- They argued over that a lot. - That's simple.
A trot singer from this era would be Kim BTS.
(A trot singer from this era would be Kim BTS.)
You said you wanted a different stage name. What was it?
I wanted it to leave a strong impression.
Yoon Bbong.
- Yoon Bbong. - Yoon Bbong...
When I call you, am I supposed to say, "Bbong"?
- What is that? - "Bbong".
- She likes unique names. - Right.
- She's bold. - It's different.
- I think Yoon Bong sounds good too. - Right.
- But... - No matter how unique you are,
- you must think about your names. - Yoon Bbong...
You should think before you speak.
You must think about it.
You got that right. That happened for the first time today.
- I'm suddenly nervous about this. - Yoon Bbong...
(I'm suddenly nervous about this.)
- You know, my name, Kim Gu Ra, - Yoon Chi Bbong.
- Right. - wasn't well received among people.
I gave it some thought.
I thought I should name myself...
Kim Gur Ah.
- Isn't that a nice name? - If you did that,
- Kim Gur Ah. - it would've stirred up Tongyeong.
- So... - "Gur Ah!"
- I even thought about that. - That's a nice name.
Kim Gur Ah. Park Jeon Bok.
(Pronounced as Kim Oyster and Park Abalones)
They could be a duo.
- I did think about that. - Choi Sea Squirt.
That's enough.
Soo Hyun, the thought of meeting Gu Ra today...
- gave you goosebumps. - Are you from Incheon?
There are two types of goosebumps.
- Whether you're excited... - Right.
or you're so annoyed to see him. It's 1 of these 2.
That's true. He's right.
- Are you his fan? - Which one is it?
He mentioned me a lot...
- on "King of Mask Singer". - My gosh.
- I did bring her up a lot. - It's a good kind of goosebumps.
What's more is that...
he even said that the singer who became the king...
sounded like me.
- He even looked me up on his phone. - Really?
- He said that on the show. - Right.
- You can't forget that. - The fact that I was...
- mentioned on the show... - Thank you.
touched my heart.
It's Yoon Soo Hyun. It's her.
- It's Yoon Soo Hyun. - Are you sure?
In my opinion,
- it's possible that it's Soo Hyun. - Yoon Soo Hyun...
(Gu Ra said her name five times.)
But when I starred on the show, you weren't there.
Park Myung Soo was there.
After you mentioned me, I went onto the show.
So I thought...
that this was the big picture MBC had for me.
You're mentioning the TV station a lot.
- They don't get involved that much. - But...
But we were able to meet again on this show.
I really believe that...
we'd be able to meet.
I knew that we'd meet for the first time on Radio Star.
That did cross my mind.
- Female celebrities don't say this. - Exactly.
- Right. - This kind of image...
- But she's so refreshing. - Right.
- Seriously. Thank you so much. - Thank you.
How is Gu Ra in person?
- He's warm. - Thank you.
- And he's got a big heart. - Okay.
And he mentioned the word, "multifarious" a lot.
- Right. - "Gosh, it's multifarious."
"Seriously. It's multifarious."
He kept saying that word.
More gratefully,
when Lee Ji Hye sang my song, "Multifarious" on another episode,
he said, "She's singing 'Multifarious'."
She kept mentioning my title.
- Whenever he did that, - Thank you for your kind words.
- I kept getting goosebumps. - She's his big fan.
I was really grateful.
- Thank you for your kind words. - I meant it.
I'll mention your song whenever I get a chance.
(May Gu Ra's career and "Multifarious" last forever.)
Soo Hyun has a lot of things she wants to try out...
and to talk about.
You wanted to date a rapper?
- I see. - Okay.
- She's very ambitious. - Among the rappers...
Which rapper did you want to date?
A while ago, I did...
a radio show with Kim Haon.
- He's really young. - Isn't he too young?
- Haon. - But he's not a minor.
No, he's not.
I like men who share...
- his thoughts without a fuss. - Haon is great.
I liked the serious side of him.
And he has his own philosophy.
I was really moved by that.
- By the way, it looks like... - She meant it.
Soo Hyun is answering these questions with an agenda...
to make headlines after this show airs.
- My gosh. - She picked Haon, you know.
- You're liking this a lot. - But...
But today,
since they are here,
- I'll pick CODE KUNST. - Really?
- Yes. - She said, "since they are here".
- And let me add this too. - So...
- CODE KUNST. - On "High School Rapper 3",
- he mentioned me. - Really?
- He really did. - When?
- "When?" - He doesn't remember.
- He doesn't remember. - My goodness.
- What did he say? - Right.
- I remembered. - Did he say a four-word idiom?
In my team, there was a young rapper...
- named Young Kay, but he kept... - Right.
saying, "Multifarious"...
in the waiting room.
The thing about him is that...
I know this since I've spent a lot of time with him.
He's not the type who can use...
such idioms with Chinese letters in them.
- He can't use hard vocabulary. - Right.
- I was really surprised. - He said, "Multifarious".
I asked him why he was saying that.
And he showed me the video.
(He shared the video for "Multifarious".)
That guy. He's one impressive guy.
I'm sorry. I still don't know what that means.
He's from the States.
"Multifarious".
How should we explain this?
- There are 1,000 shapes... - Listen up.
It means that all sorts of things happen in life.
Look at us. This is multifarious.
We have Mr. Nam here.
There are Shorry and me.
This is multifarious.
- All sorts of things happen. - There are 1,000 shapes...
- and 10,000 forms. - Forms.
- "Life is full of surprises." - That's what it means.
- It's along the same lines. - That's right.
- I was really grateful. - There are many shapes and forms.
I bet you can turn Soo Hyun's song into a hip hop song.
The lyrics are somewhat set up for a hip hop song, aren't they?
If I give it a shot, I could probably do it.
- These lyrics can be used for raps. - Right.
(She starts selling her song right away.)
(He's helping her out.)
Let's move on from this topic. Let's move on.
No one has ever left such a strong impression of herself...
- within an hour of filming. - Let's move on.
(She's indeed a multifarious singer.)
Swings, you said that hip hop artists...
use "hip hop" interchangeably to mean something else.
- What do you mean? - What?
This is becoming a fad these days.
For example, this is how you use the word.
After listening to Mr. Nam's "Heartache", I could say this.
"This is hip hop."
- I get what he's trying to say. - I see.
- I say it when it's real music. - "It's something authentic."
Tonkatsu is a word...
that goes hand and hand with me these days.
I starred on a program with Baek Jong Won...
and ate tonkatsu.
After eating it, I said, "This is hip-hop."
People called me a lunatic.
You use "Hip-hop" that way.
Yes. It's like, "This is something."
This is real.
If I eat tasty tonkatsu, I might say,
"This is ballad."
"This is totally ballad."
(I love both tonkatsu and exclamations.)
If the taste of food envelopes your mouth, you can go,
"This is trot."
(He loves it.)
"It envelopes my mouth."
I will say this.
"It's Gu Ra."
My goodness, thank you.
- It became your expression. - That's right.
- I also use it a lot... - Hip-hop.
- when I was pleasantly shocked. - I see.
Soo Hyun, you think the secrets of singing trot well...
are bending and cutting.
- Bending. - Bending and cutting.
- I get the bending part. - Cutting is new.
I shouldn't be so rash in front of Nam Jin.
No, no.
It's too late to say that now.
I get bending, but what is cutting?
Let's use "The Crying Undutiful Son" as an example.
If I bend the notes properly...
(The bending version)
(She bends the notes without hesitation.)
(Even when)
(I cry)
(My)
(Mother)
That's how you bend the notes.
When I had just begun to sing,
my bending was too excessive.
I had to practice cutting it.
- I had to learn... - You learned how to bend properly.
how to bend softly.
So...
(The cutting version)
(Even when)
(I cry)
(My)
(Mother)
You need to bend and cut so that the notes come out soft.
Then you bend properly when it's necessary.
It's about controlling the strength.
You are only serious when you sing.
I know.
You are completely different when you talk.
You are serious when you sing.
Soo Hyun, before you settled on trot,
you learned classical singing and rock.
In middle school, I learned classical singing for three years.
In university, I was a rock vocalist.
I want to hear your classical singing.
She will show us what she prepared.
Should I do it now?
Reporters, get ready.
We agreed on this ahead of time.
- Classical singing. - She even brought a piece of paper.
(Passionate)
She is ready.
She doesn't do anything halfheartedly.
I love BTS,
their songs,
and their fandom, ARMY.
There will be many articles about her.
She talked about liking me...
- and BTS. - That's right.
She likes a variety of people.
Yes.
With "Boy with Luv",
I will give you old-school K-Pop, classical singing, trot,
rock, and Chinese opera versions.
- Really? - There will be five versions.
That's impressive.
The production crew asked for 2, but she prepared 5 versions.
She is enthusiastic.
Let's see it.
(A refreshing song...)
(by a global idol group, )
("Boy with Luv" by BTS)
(How will be the 5 versions of this song?)
- All right. - Let's hear them.
("5 versions of 'Boy with Luv'" by Yoon Soo Hyun)
I will start with old-school K-Pop.
Hurry up.
(Listen, my, my baby)
(I am soaring through the sky)
(With the two wings you gave me)
Classical singing.
(Is she warming up?)
It's too high up here
(Her classical singing voice is celestial.)
(Impressed)
- Zoom in. - That was good.
- Trot. - Trot.
(It's time for her specialty, trot version.)
(Lilting)
(I have waited all my life)
(Her lilting voice makes you wonder if it's the same song.)
- My goodness. - Rock.
(She is channeling a rock star.)
(Oh, my, my, my)
(The original song disappears without a trace.)
(Now I understand)
(A bit)
(Her rock spirit explodes.)
(Chinese opera)
(Culture shock)
(The Chinese opera version would make BTS dance.)
Minor
(Minor habits)
(Ta-da)
(Her energy is on another level.)
- You need to work harder. - I see.
- You need to work harder. - I will try harder.
(She isn't done yet.)
- Stop it. - You can stop now.
(They become exhausted.)
I met an interesting character...
towards the end of my time on Radio Star.
I am glad to hear that.
Why did you show up so late?
I am proud to see that I have a great junior singer...
in the music industry.
That was something new.
- Her energy... - It's no joke.
I have never come across such reckless energy.
It's no wonder "Multifarious" is her song.
(It's no wonder "Multifarious" is her song.)
(The singer of the song is on another level.)
Swings, you said you are good at hip-hop...
thanks to autosuggestion.
I use the technique when I want to be good at something.
I released a few tracks about it.
Before I perform on the stage or join the shoot,
I talk to myself.
- "I am the best." - Do you do it alone?
- Do you do it alone? - Yes. I do it alone.
(Autosuggestion time with Swings' voice)
(I am a man of high caliber.)
(I can achieve anything.)
(I make billions of dollars.)
(There are 123 of these sentences.)
(An optimistic man)
- You say those things to yourself. - Do you know what's cute?
Some kindergarten teachers have children lie down...
and listen to this track.
Back in the days, people said you become what you say.
You know "I Am Happy" by Yoon Hang Ki, right?
- Yes. - My mom always sang it.
(I am happy)
- That's autosuggestion. - That's right.
(Gu Ra keeps going)
- I am very happy - I do the same thing.
You were born to be loved
- I always sing that song. - That's autosuggestion.
CODE KUNST, I heard that...
you became shocked upon witnessing...
Swings' autosuggestion.
I tried it, but stopped right away.
There is a reason.
At the waiting room for "Show Me the Money",
I saw him use the technique.
I thought, "Okay. I should try it."
I had a stomachache from eating too much,
so I went, "I don't have a stomachache."
But it was ineffective.
(A wrong example of autosuggestion)
You shouldn't use negative statements.
It should be, "I am healthy," not "I don't have a stomachache."
- Then... - "I am healthy."
Also, the statement should start with "I am".
That's how subconsciousness works.
Swings, if I say, "I am healthy"...
without taking medicine, will my stomachache go away?
- You know the placebo effect. - The placebo effect.
During wartime, one hospital ran out of medicine.
They gave sugar to the patient and said,
"Eat this. It will cure your broken bone."
The patient believed it and became better.
Thus, your mind controls the body.
- People don't know this. - I am sure it eased the symptoms.
There is no way it cured the broken bone.
Soo Hyun, what is it?
Since I was in clinical research,
- I know this topic. - Will you butt in again?
The placebo effect.
When the researchers gave a placebo to the patients,
their conditions improved.
- Really? - Gu Ra is going through menopause.
What kind of autosuggestion does he need?
"I am young. Age is just a number." He should continue to say that.
- That's cool. - Of course,
your emotions should go with your words.
"I am young." If you do that, it will be ineffective.
"I am young." You need to say it like that.
I am young.
I am tall.
(Laughing)
Why are you laughing?
I am tall. I am tall.
That's right. Some things won't change.
All right. That's good.
(I am joking.)
Swings, in the hip-hop scene,
"Flex" is more in vogue than "Swag".
- Flex. - What is that?
It means...
- is it "Flex" or "Plex"? - Flex.
It's "flex".
It's like flexing your muscles.
That's where it comes from.
What does it mean?
(Laughing)
What does it mean?
When bodybuilders flex, they are showing off their muscles.
"Flex" is the act of showing off...
what you have.
- I see. - "I got a car. Flex."
- "I can sing. Flex." - "Flex."
"Swag" isn't in vogue anymore.
- Flex. - The trends changed.
Soo Hyun, you said trot singers flex with shiny things.
If I need to perform on a big stage
as an obscure singer...
- with idol singers, - I see.
I think to myself, "I will show them."
"I will captivate everyone."
Then I wear...
What do you wear?
Earrings, rings, bracelets,
and a shiny outfit.
- How about a gold tooth? - A gold tooth?
You should sport a gold tooth when you sing "Multifarious".
- Here? - It will be shiny.
(Show me the gold tooth.)
Tae Jin Ah is the king of stage costumes.
He is incredible.
I went to Tae Jin Ah's house once.
Inside the closet was a year's worth of stage costumes.
- Really? - There were 50 white shirts.
- Seriously. - Really?
He didn't have five shirts back in the days.
I used to buy him shirts.
Really?
I still remember it. One time, I bought him...
- an Italian suit. - You were like his guardian.
I gave my card to pay.
This happened 40 years ago.
Tae Jin Ah came to me and said, "Why did you give them..."
"your business card?"
- The card. - Back then, cards weren't common.
That's right.
(This is a credit card.)
I still remember that.
Soo Hyun, you said...
the secret of performing well is seizing control.
When there is an audience,
it's important to seize control by making yourself known.
When I enter the stage, I go,
"Hello, I am Yoon Soo Hyun. It's nice to meet you!"
(Here comes the cheerful Yoon Soo Hyun.)
(She is the most energetic trot singer.)
I run to the center of the stage.
"I am Yoon Soo Hyun."
"Look at me."
I shake my hands like this.
When I begin that way,
- I become confident. - That's right.
Then the audience's energy enters my body...
and I can complete the performance with more ease.
In terms of popularity, are you in top 10 female trot singers?
- She is in the top five. - Of course, she is.
- Of course, she is in the top 10. - Yes.
- She is the top female trot singer. - She is in the top five.
Of course, she is in the top 10.
There are many female trot singers.
Jang Yun Jung, Hong Jin Young...
- I see. - Soo Hyun is very different.
Right now, she is a female singer...
before impressive celebrities.
It's incredible that she made everyone laugh.
- Everyone laughed because of her. - She is different.
Who else can do that?
- She is very different. - Soo Hyun is the only one.
She is a funny singer.
- She is really funny. - Thank you.
We established that, so let's move on.
(Nam Jin loves his junior singer, Soo Hyun.)
CODE KUNST, when you work on hip-hop music,
you mind what you wear.
Yes. When I work,
- You dress casually? - I like to dress uniquely.
I wear an outfit that suits the mood of the song.
(He wears an outfit that suits the mood of the song.)
If I want to work on a sexy song...
- Do you wear silk? - I only wear a gown.
- Really? - I work that way.
- Didn't you post it on SNS? - You don't wear anything else?
Sometimes, I don't wear anything else.
- Really? - If it's inconvenient...
How about underwear?
- He doesn't wear it. - Sometimes,
I don't wear it.
Since you work alone,
- you can wear anything. - That's right.
There are many posts about work on your SNS.
That's right.
- I like to show off. - I see.
I see.
- You like attention. - Are you an attention seeker?
Yes, I am. I was born that way.
These days, people don't mind being called an attention seeker.
All of us are attention seekers.
- I think all musicians are. - That's right.
- All celebrities are. - That's right.
I am an attention seeker.
- My goodness. - I am an attention seeker.
- You didn't have to say that. - I am an attention seeker.
We know you are. We know.
What does that mean?
- It's someone who seeks attention. - Someone who seeks attention.
- Attention seeker. - Yes.
- Attention seeker. - It's my first time to hear it.
Attention seeker.
I am learning a lot of new terms here.
- Mr. Attention Seeker. - Attention Seeker.
Mr. Attention Seeker.
- Mr. Attention Seeker. - It's cute.
(Mr. Attention Seeker, welcome to Radio Star.)
The secret card Nam Jin has for his performances at events...
- is the Y Dance. - The Y Dance.
- The Y Dance? - What kind of dance is it?
I saw the comedienne...
- Jang Do Yeon. - Jang Do Yeon.
I saw her do the dance on TV.
I love comedy programs. I enjoy watching them a lot.
- She did this. - Yes.
It looked like a strange dance.
At first, I thought,
"Why is she dancing that way?"
When music came on,
the dance became charming.
Without realizing it...
- I will show you. - Okay.
Without realizing it, I did this.
The audience loved it, right?
The audience loved it.
Now, I do it whenever I had the chance.
(Nam Jin, we love you.)
Jang Do Yeon...
- used to chase after Nam Jin. - The Y Dance.
- There could be a collaboration. - That's right.
You still have...
- good pelvic movements. - That's nice.
I still have it.
(He is proud.)
You must have practiced a lot.
I do this.
- What else do you do? - I do this.
I also do this.
I do this.
(He can move freely.)
(I love Nam Jin.)
- It's nice, right? - Yes.
It's quite nice.
- Let me see you do the dance. - It's...
- Hold on. I made the Y. - That's right.
"Don't just stand there, woo."
"Is this a reality or a dream?"
"Is it true or false? Don't just stand there."
- "Woo." - You turn a little.
(Nam Jin's dance was just as good when he was younger.)
(Powerful)
You had the same pose on every LP jacket.
(Smiling)
You had this pose on every LP jacket.
Which pose did you strike the most often?
Let's see it.
(He waits for a beat and shoots.)
His old pictures are incredible.
Soo Hyun, you do all kinds of things in the car...
because of events.
- How long was your interview? - Was it 10 hours long.
It seems like it was 10 hours long.
She must have given them a lot of information.
I stayed passionate during the preliminary interview.
I spend a lot of time in the car.
After an event in the evening, I reach the countryside...
after a six-hour drive.
Then I have an event in the morning...
and go to a different location.
- She performs at many events. - That's incredible.
I keep a bucket of water in the car...
to wash my face.
- You do it as you go to an event. - Yes.
- How do you do your hair? - I do my eye makeup.
Hair? There is an electrical outlet in the car.
- That's right. - I roll my hair...
and complete my look.
Did you go to the beauty shop today?
That's right.
Look at my eye makeup.
I knew someone who did the same.
- Soo Hyun winked. Look. - I saw.
(She made eye contact with Gu Ra.)
(My goodness.)
Nam Jin, you said you almost died on the stage.
- That's right. - There was an accident.
Back in my days, nothing went smoothly.
I was performing on a rainy day.
I was singing, but no sound came out...
- of the microphone. - Electrocuted?
Nam Jin, you said you almost died on the stage.
- That's right. - There was an accident.
Back in my days, nothing went smoothly.
I was performing on a rainy day.
I was singing, but no sound came out...
- of the microphone. - Electrocuted?
I gestured to an employee...
- and he brought a new microphone. - I see.
With the original microphone in my hand,
(With the original microphone in his hand)
I grabbed the new microphone.
- Lightning is drawn this way. - Yes.
I saw lightning before my eyes.
My goodness.
I would collapse if it happens now.
But I was in my 20s back then.
I was in perfect health.
I saw lightning before my eyes, but I held on to the microphones.
Really?
You should have let go!
I wanted to let go,
but I couldn't.
Your hands were frozen.
- Your hands were frozen. - You can't let go when it happens.
It occurred to me that I might die.
- I used all of my strength... - You let go of it.
to let go of the microphones. Then my body flew back.
- Really? - My body flew back.
It's like a scene from a movie.
- "Back to the Future". - I remember that...
in a drama that was written by Im Sung Han,
Im Hyuk shot lasers out of his eyes.
That's right. I saw lightning before my eyes...
the same way.
(It's a story they can laugh about now.)
This year, you turned 75 years old.
No, no.
Soon, I will be old.
You don't want to talk about your age.
You said earlier that you were born in 1945.
How old were you when you debuted?
I debuted in my 20s.
- In your 20s? - Yes.
To this day, you practice singing every day.
I practice a few hours a day.
- Really? - Yes.
I listen to music a lot, too.
I listen to pansori,
classical music,
and chanson.
These days, I listen to the music of all genres.
I began to listen to rap, too.
At first, it seemed a bit strange.
I was reminded of the late Seo Yeong Chun.
If there is sprit at the shore of Incheon
That's the first Korean rap.
That's why I couldn't take it seriously.
When I listen to rap these days,
it seems charming.
Music has no boundaries.
It's all about sentimentality.
It's good to listen to a lot of music.
I always tell Soo Hyun, "Listen to a lot of music."
"Don't stick to one genre."
- That's right. - I tell her that.
Swings.
Although you are only in your 30s, you are planning your retirement.
- What does that mean? - Who is doing that?
- Really? - I said it when I was having...
a conversation with a writer of another show.
I said it without thinking...
because I didn't know it would go on TV.
She asked me, "What will you do five years from now?"
I said, "I think I will retire."
It went on TV.
It must have come out because it was on your mind.
I still think that.
- I became certain. - Really?
- Will you retire in five years? - Yes.
Music isn't as fun as it used to be.
- Really? - Yes.
Do you like this better?
I do like money.
- You could run a business. - I see.
You know,
I can't stop being an artist.
I express my creativity through the arts.
I love running a business exactly as I imagined...
and seeing it become successful.
Whether it's lucrative or not,
it doesn't matter.
And training juniors like Puff Daddy?
Yes, that too.
To be frank,
I'm not actually being funny here,
but I like making people laugh.
Can't you be funny here too?
I'd like to,
but I don't feel comfortable around seniors.
Are you also a YouTube creator?
I am, and it's really fun.
- It looks fun. - Yes.
Watch it when you have time. I enjoy doing it.
I will if you make me laugh here.
(That's true.)
In the group chat of your company,
- you post wise quotes there? - Yes.
But your crew members are quite tough, aren't they?
It's just their rap name...
and the music that's tough.
Hip hop artists in general...
are only tough in their imaginations.
- They're very innocent. - They must be.
And they're kind.
The mind grows,
- but stops earlier than others. - Right.
Why does it stop?
It's...
Because it's rebellious music?
- Yes, that too. - Please explain to him.
So,
this is how I feel, and I feel like...
we live on with a low mental age...
- on average. - That's right.
So when hip hop artists...
becomes mature and be an adult, does that mean retirement?
They become me,
wanting to try other things.
Things get insignificant.
I just can't do it like the old days when I'm on the stage.
I think I get it.
- I do too. - I know what it is.
You can't write the lyrics anymore.
- Right. - When making hip hop music...
It's because I started having manners.
When making hip hop music,
it helps to minimize access to the outside world.
CODE KUNST, isn't it about time you became mature?
I think he already is mature.
I think he's pretending to look immature.
I mean...
- Do you pretend? - No.
Is it capitalistic immaturity?
- I try my best not to be mature. - Me too.
But some things are irresistible.
It's not easy to stay rebellious.
As a citizen, I have to pay taxes,
those things...
You shouldn't let those be overdue on purpose.
"I'm going to fight the system!"
"How much is the tax this year?"
- This is how it is. - Paying for gas and electricity,
it's something I should get used to.
(He's a hip hop artist compromising with the world.)
CODE KUNST,
things got awkward with your mom while working on a song?
Right.
I decided to make music later than others,
it was after I finished serving the army.
I started in my room,
because I didn't have much money.
I made music in a room that I was living with my mom.
When you listen to foreign songs,
there's a lot of voice chopping.
(Voice chopping is cutting files with human voices recorded...)
(and using it as a source of music.)
I wanted to develop my own voice chopping,
so I can have my own sources.
I thought a new method would make people remember me.
- So you put in the samples. - Yes.
I'm quite skilled with it now,
so it's fine,
but back then, I made these sounds in my room.
Like this.
When my mom opens my door...
to see if I'm doing okay,
and I'm making these sounds in my room.
She must have thought you were choking.
Right.
The Heimlich maneuver.
Right.
- My mom saw that, - It should've been awkward.
then she sighed, closed the door and left.
She must have wondered why you were making weird noises.
Because music is playing the piano for mothers.
Right.
And you draw blood for each album you make?
That was back then, when making my first album.
I didn't get enough sleep,
I didn't eat well.
I thought I would always be healthy,
but I was having nosebleeds.
I try to take care of myself now.
But the problem then...
was I was ill.
- It was... - Was it a panic disorder?
It was the eighth grade syndrome.
I was quite enjoying it too.
So it's like poets coughing blood.
- That's right. - In the movie.
When it happens, I think,
"Have I become an artist now?"
That's what I thought.
- That was me back then. - That's why your name is KUNST.
Right,
and there's this.
Once I was drinking with Nucksal,
and I stayed up two nights in a row trying to make music.
I was feeling dizzy,
but I drank anyways and passed out in the bar.
I couldn't remember a thing.
Nucksal slapped me...
to wake me up.
He still tells me...
that he saved my life.
His name is Nucksal.
- That's his name? - Yes.
I thought he was saying his friend was outgoing.
(That's an outgoing friend.)
You thought...
an outgoing friend slapped him?
I thought he was a good friend.
(CODE KUNST has a good friend.)
I think it's better for celebrities...
- to have unique names. - Right.
- Gu Ra, - Yes.
- you have a million-dollar name. - Right.
Thank you.
It would have been weird if your stage name was Serious.
- That's right. - You would still be unknown.
- Are you serious right now? - His name, Gu Ra...
- Are you serious? - Yes.
Do you know his name?
- Do you know mine? - Do you know?
Was it Haeshim?
- Haeshim? - No, that's not it.
No, you're Three.
Three?
- You think his name is Three? - No.
I'm Shorry.
He knows.
- I'm sorry. - It's fine.
His name is Shorry.
(I'm sorry, Shorry.)
Soo Hyun has a variety of qualifications.
She was a math instructor, a tarot card part-timer,
an intern at National Health Insurance,
and she also worked at hospital infection control.
- You did so many. - She did uncommon things.
You had a secret method to be popular as a math instructor?
I thought students will come if I gave a strong impression,
so I tried to teach them funny.
A squared plus B squared equals C squared
- You were singing? - Yes.
That's what I did.
The kids loved it.
I was dancing with them during breaks.
I was like, "Together!"
I was doing this,
and we'd get back to class.
That's a pretty old song.
It's what Park Myung Soo did.
Why? Why did you quit then?
The contest of MBC,
I won the grand prize there.
The payment for events was quite large.
- So I switched jobs. - She's very talented.
- Right. - She's talented,
and she's passionate.
Did you once audition 30 times...
- for the same company? - Yes.
It was my current agency.
I thought if I pass, that would be it.
But there were more auditions.
Audition with the reporters,
audition with the songwriters,
audition with the lyricists,
audition with the journalists,
audition with people they know,
and then there was him at the last audition.
He was wearing a white suit that looked powerful.
He was sitting in the middle telling me to do things.
- He asked you to improvise. - Yes, and after that,
I started as a trainee there.
I was a trot song trainee.
You must have had different courses from idol group trainees.
- Like bending. - Right. Cutting.
- You also have to do some dances. - Right.
The seniors like...
subtle dances.
That's right.
Like this.
And...
I was good with computers since I worked at companies before.
I did some accountant works in this agency,
I cleaned,
I came to work at 9am,
and went home at 6pm.
If you did the accountant works,
you must know well about the financial structure there.
They can't even fire her now.
(Agreeing)
Do you do 100 events a month?
- In a month? - Is that true?
- That's like 3, 4 events a day. - It is.
What was the most peculiar one?
That would be...
- the one that was life-threatening. - What was it?
- It was at an ocean festival. - Yes.
They had plate buoys tied on the surface of the ocean.
I wondered what it was,
and they told me it was the stage.
That was the stage?
It was pretty large, though.
So I wouldn't have fallen into the sea,
but it was bouncing with the waves,
and I danced with it.
- It must have been nice. - Right.
That was an event I did...
with the nature.
Why do you keep doing this?
Because I feel like...
I'm showing off when I'm talking about these.
She just started rubbing the table.
It's because now she has to talk about sad stories.
- She has to switch her mode. - Is that it?
She started rubbing it all of a sudden,
and it was to impress us?
But this is nothing.
- In the old days... - Oh, boy.
Tell us the story.
In the old days.
I want to know.
Most singers had that experience a few times...
in the old days.
Things were dropping on the head...
while filming on the set.
- We'd break our legs. - Really?
- That's really nothing. - Yes.
- Know that. - Yes.
It's a relief that nothing dangerous happened to you.
Nam Jin, you're famous for being a singer,
but you were also in 70 films.
- 70 films? - 70 films?
Doesn't that make you...
- an actor? - He's also an actor.
He's an actor, not a singer.
Don't spread the words.
You filmed with most of the actresses...
- of the time. - I did, and love scenes too.
There was Nam Jeong Im, Yoon Jeong Hee,
- and Moon Hee. - Right.
Wasn't there a film for your song, "My Heart Aches"?
There was.
- All my hit songs then... - They were made into films.
were all written into scenarios and were made into films.
Censorship was really harsh back then,
and I was filming melodramatic films since I was in my 20s.
Naturally, there were love scenes,
- and bed scenes in there. - Yes.
But our lips couldn't touch.
We had to avoid each other's lips sideways.
- You had to turn. - Yes.
- We had to do it like this. - I remember that.
If it looks like they're touching, it was cut out.
And the films these days...
make me wonder...
if they were made in Korea or in a foreign country.
- They show everything. - Right.
They touch each other and they do their things.
And...
- about the bed scenes. - Yes.
In the old days,
when the couples lied on a bed together,
the camera suddenly went up,
and it filmed the clock ticking.
(That's right.)
Or...
we filmed the ring on a doll...
next to the bed.
And the globe beside the bed.
That's right.
- The globe would wobble. - Right.
But modern-day films show everything...
in bed scenes.
They were...
just going at it.
CODE KUNST,
you have an unusual specialty?
What's a tongue specialty?
Most hip hop artists...
don't have specialties.
That's true.
So I've been thinking,
and I liked the show, "The Father Challenge".
- Yes. - I remember that.
For instance,
they show an episode on this weekend,
and you have to practice the mission until the next weekend.
And the only thing I was able to do was...
using my tongue as...
Do you know how to make a three-leaved clover?
- Rolling the tongue? - Oh, that?
I can make a three-leaved clover...
- and a cat's eye. - What?
I've never seen a cat's eye.
So I'm going to show you...
- Show us. - A three-leaf clover...
Look at that camera.
- I didn't know I'd do this. - It's okay. "Dad's Challenge"
(CODE KUNST's challenge!)
- A three-leaf clover. - Show it to the camera too.
You can see three leaves.
(This is tongue flexing.)
A meme of you doing this will be all over the internet.
Did they do this on "Dad's Challenge"?
Yes, as far as I remember.
So dads did things like this in front of their children?
- They got a prize. - So you practiced it back then?
- That's also a talent. - Exactly.
- And a cat's eye... - A cat's eye.
It took me a long time to figure out how to do it.
Please look at the camera.
- Oh, my. - What's that?
Let me see. Look this way. It really looks like a cat's eye.
(It looks like a cat's eye.)
- He has three eyes. - Hang on.
- How did you roll your tongue? - He has three eyes on his face.
- First, roll your tongue like this. - How?
Like this.
- And then roll it again vertically. - Do it again.
Show us again.
Look at the camera.
- I see. - Look this way.
(He starts feeling embarrassed.)
Show us. It's okay.
- It looks like a cat's eye. - Can you do it too?
How can I do it?
(You might get a cramp in the tongue.)
You must be good at rapping.
Swings also has special talents.
- Swings too? - Yes. So...
Well... Hold on a second.
- Are you going to sing? - I'll imitate DinDin first.
- DinDin? - DinDin.
- This is how he speaks. - Okay. Show us.
"This is so annoying. That pig should keep his mouth shut. Gosh."
"He always scolds me for no reason."
- "What did I ever do wrong? Gosh." - It's annoying.
He speaks like this.
- It was good. - You sounded similar to DinDin.
- I'll imitate Simon Dominic. - Simon Dominic?
"What? Have you been eating well, Soo Hyun? What have you been up to?"
"You're such a great singer."
"You sing..."
That's too quiet for Simon Dominic.
He's right.
I practice to imitate Jong Shin...
- when I'm home. - Show us.
I do it while watching TV. My wife likes it so much.
- While walking, he says, - I see.
"Is that a fact?"
(Fully satisfied)
You look more like Jong Shin when standing up.
He appears on the screen so suddenly.
- Sit down and do it again. - "Is that a fact?"
Oh, that's how you start it.
- "Is that a fact?" - I see.
- Your wife likes it? - She likes it so much.
- You looked like him when standing. - Is that right?
You looked like a life size standee of him.
His neck looks unusually short in that commercial.
- "Is that a fact?" - It's because I gained weight.
(It's because I gained weight.)
Nam Jin is considered Na Hoon A's forever rival.
It isn't an exaggeration to say that Korean people were divided...
- into two groups of fans of each. - In the 1970s and 1980s.
At the time, the fans of these two singers often had...
- a fist fight. - That's right.
For example, there was an awards ceremony,
- and we both attended it. - Right.
Only one singer won the Best Singer Award,
- so one of us couldn't receive it. - Yes.
- Then the fans cried so much. - They went crazy.
They made a scene.
My goodness. If I think about it now...
In fact, an incident happened back then.
Na Hoon A was attacked.
- Yes. While performing on stage. - That's right.
- Is that true? - Right here.
- With a soju bottle. - That's right.
And you were investigated because you were suspected to be behind it.
- That's right. Some reporters... - That's what I heard.
wrote that maybe I had had someone to attack him...
- because he was my rival. - News articles like that came out.
Many news articles like that came out.
So I was summoned for investigation.
I went to the prosecutor's office.
The investigation began in a tense atmosphere.
I was asked questions for about three minutes.
- "Are you behind the attack?" - Exactly.
- Just to be sure. - Right.
The prosecutors in the special unit are extraordinary, you know.
They asked me questions for only 3 minutes. About 5 minutes later,
- They knew you weren't behind it. - they laughed and let me go.
"You may go now." So I just left.
A lot of things happened. In fact,
I found out about this a few decades after it happened.
It turned out that he went to see...
the late Shin Seong Il first.
The man who attacked Na Hoon A.
And then he came to my house.
(His next target was Nam Jin.)
- So he was that kind of person. - Yes.
He's one of those people who stalk celebrities.
- That's right. Anyway... - And taking money from celebrities.
It was early morning when he came to my house.
While sleeping, I sensed someone's presence and opened my eyes.
I saw the face of someone I didn't know right above my head.
- I was lying in my bed. - I got goosebumps.
- Imagine how scared I was. - Of course.
- It's terrifying. - That's unbelievable.
He was looking down at me since I was lying down.
He was sitting on a chair.
I was so surprised. I asked who he was.
Then he started talking.
He demanded for money.
I said, "If you had visited me properly..."
- "instead of breaking in," - I see.
"and asked me for help, I might have helped you."
"But instead, you broke into my house early in the morning."
- "You're just like a thief now." - A robber.
- He's a robber. - "I can't give you anything."
What he said next was so surprising.
(What did the robber say?)
"Would you give me money if I harm your rival?"
That's what he said. So I realized...
that he wasn't a normal person.
- So... - It's scary.
I said smiling, "We are not like gangsters."
"We are just artists."
"There's no rival that you think in this world."
I talked to him nicely and sent him away...
telling him not to do such a thing again.
But a few days later,
I read the news article about the attack.
I was so surprised.
- I thought he had a problem. - He must've been...
He also came to my house in Mokpo after the incident.
He set my house on fire.
- The same man did it? - Yes.
He came to my house when my mother was home.
- He set your house on fire? - He threatened her too. Yes.
I still feel sad about something.
It's okay that my house burned down.
But we had portraits of my grandparents in that house.
- You lost their portraits. - Yes.
I'm still upset about it.
Whenever I think about it, I get so angry.
They were the only portraits of them we had left.
I'm still upset about it
- It looks like he held grudges. - He was a lunatic.
This is the first time I've shared this story.
- It's a very serious incident. - In the early 1970s.
CODE KUNST, what does it mean that you turn down the TV volume...
whenever your family gather?
When a baby is born, the ears...
have been developed 90 percent of when it comes to the size.
- Really? - Yes.
When people look at the photos of my childhood, they're surprised.
- I have cupped ears. - Right.
- You can hear better, right? - Yes.
I can hear better than others.
Of course.
- You have bigger ears. - That's right.
Oh, that's why?
So you can hear the TV even at a low volume.
I think I can hear better than others at a low volume.
I guess it does help to gather sounds.
Try this.
You'll see if you try it.
- Like this. - That's why...
- wild animals... - I can hear better this way.
- That's right. - It must be hard for you to find...
headphones to fit your ears.
It's really hard to find the right earphones for me.
- I understand. - When I put them on,
- they fall off if I tilt my head. - You should put it sideways.
- They just fall off. - He has big earholes.
You can wind the cable around your ear like this.
- That's how I wear earphones. - Good.
That's how you should live your life.
- I wind the cable around my ear. - That's good.
I don't have cartilage in here.
Most people have cartilage in here, right?
- But I don't. - That's interesting.
- Do you have it? - Ouch.
(Let me see if my boy has it.)
- He's cute. - He's cute, indeed.
Everyone in my family has ears like mine.
- My family photos are so funny. - When the wind blows...
- Why are they funny? - Why?
Because we all have ears like mine,
when we take a photo together at a wedding...
(Cupped ears)
- Just like in "Star Trek". - Exactly.
- "Star Trek" characters or Piccolo. - Right.
Do you fold your ears when you sleep?
I fold them like this when I don't hear anything.
That's nice.
Indeed.
Isn't it hard to walk when the wind blows?
- Because of the resistance? - Really?
- Is that so? - Actually,
- my ears get tanned fast. - Right.
In winter, my ears frost-bitten easily.
I see.
All he talked about here were his ears and tongue.
- He didn't talk about many things. - Exactly.
I made use of what my parents gave to me.
(Mom and Dad, thank you for giving me special ears and tongue.)
You are watching a high-end music program, Radio Star.
Today, it's for those who want to attract all age groups with music.
"The Song Loved by People from Teenagers to Elders".
- All right. - All right.
Shall we hear the song that Nam Jin and Soo Hyun chose?
("Sachigi Sachigi" by Nam Jin and Yoon Soo Hyun)
(A trot duet song with a catchy chorus)
(Moving up and down)
(Dancing)
The song title is "Sachigi Sachigi".
Let me ask you a question. Who suggested a duet song first?
There's no way I could have asked him to sing a duet song with me.
Why did you specifically pick Soo Hyun?
I guess we were meant to do it together. That's how things go.
- Just like we met each other today. - Right.
He was the judge of the audition Soo Hyun went to.
No wonder why...
he insisted on coming on the show with her.
- Human relationships are important. - Yes.
Nam Jin and Soo Hyun will sing "Sachigi Sachigi".
I'm excited.
Let's go!
("Sachigi Sachigi" by Nam Jin and Yoon Soo Hyun)
(Dancing)
(Bouncing lightly)
(As soon as the song starts, )
(they give off the trot vibes!)
(Oh, my. That's my style.)
(Me too.)
(They do the wave dance as if they're surfing on the rhythm.)
(Dancing)
(Monday is)
(The day we all love)
She sings so well.
(Tuesday is)
(The day we love passionately)
(Doing the shake dance one more time)
(On Wednesdays, we love countlessly)
(Shy)
(On Thursdays, we risk our lives for love)
(On Fridays)
(Let's share)
(Precious love)
(What amazing rhymes with days of week.)
(This is so cool like hip hop.)
(Great teamwork)
(Perfect choreography that suits the lyrics)
(Everyone gets excited.)
(The trot emperor and the new princess of excitement)
(In fact, the forever young Nam Jin and a rising star of a variety show)
(Their performance was full of...)
(55-year experience and cheerful energy.)
(The perfect chemistry)
(Smiling)
That was amazing.
She enjoyed performing on stage.
- Great job. - Thank you.
Shorry has been here with us as our today's special MC.
- How was it? - You did well.
- Did I do okay? - Yes.
Was I okay, sir?
- You did very well. - Good job.
- Ahn Young Mi will join the show. - Right. I didn't know that.
But Jong Shin will leave the show as well.
- He'll leave the show soon. - Try to get my position.
- Okay. I see. - He'll leave of his own will.
- Put on plastic frame glasses. - Oh, I see.
"Is that a fact?"
(Shorry is always on standby.)
- I'm available. - Good.
I'll do my best. Please invite me again.
All right.
Trot and hip hop. Hip hop and trot.
Although they're different genres,
they both make us excited and comfort us.
We hope you all flex your multifarious music world...
on the green, wide stage just like a painting...
make your days a good day.
We will say goodbye here. See you next week.
- Please. - Please.
Please.
(See you again next week!)
("The Golden Leaders Awards" will be aired next Wednesday.)
("Romanticism" by Leo)